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September 27, 2016, 02:08:51 PM
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ftac03

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FF to CC Rebuild
« on: September 27, 2016, 02:08:51 PM »
I'm planning to take this family fisherman down to the stringers and rebuild as a center console. If you need any of the hardware let me know. The windshield frame and glass is in good condition and for sale. I'm sure this has been done before, any links to a conversion of the family fisherman out there?


September 27, 2016, 03:54:50 PM
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Re: FF to CC Rebuild
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2016, 03:54:50 PM »
Can't recall having seen that done before but it certainly doesn't mean it has not nor cannot.

Good luck and post pics of your progress. :thumright:
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September 28, 2016, 10:09:41 AM
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Re: FF to CC Rebuild
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2016, 10:09:41 AM »
Seems to me, when the liner comes out it is essentially the same thing as a 222 ccp.

September 28, 2016, 10:55:58 AM
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Re: FF to CC Rebuild
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2016, 10:55:58 AM »
there have been a few threads where people have started this, but never completed the threads.
one of the bigger tasks to think about is where your cap will be. are you going to make a flat cap at the rub rail, like an osprey, or keep the "raised" cap like a ccp.

once you have it gutted, you will also need to beef up the gunwales I would think. exterior wise, and for the most part- stringer-wise, they are the same hull.

cant tell from the pic- is that an Outboard, or I/O that has been pulled?
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September 28, 2016, 04:51:56 PM
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2016, 04:51:56 PM »
It's an outboard. I think I'll do a flat gunwale at the rubrail so I can run a trolling motor on the bow. No liner with a workboat finish. I don't want to reinvent the wheel on this project.

September 29, 2016, 04:14:29 PM
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2016, 04:14:29 PM »
sounds good. there are a few boats on here that have been converted to mulletboats- you could follow their lead and have great results.  caps are "simple" to build. you could start once you pull everything and make "knees" for the cap to rest on. then form your cap from those.
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September 29, 2016, 09:49:21 PM
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Re: FF to CC Rebuild
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2016, 09:49:21 PM »
Thanks chris. Any threads in particular? I've looked at a bunch of threads but haven't seen any about mulletboats. Probably because I've been looking at the ccp threads mostly.

September 30, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
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September 30, 2016, 08:24:34 AM
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2016, 08:24:34 AM »
That's the one I was thinking of, Rick beat me to it.
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October 03, 2016, 10:08:33 PM
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Re: FF to CC Rebuild
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2016, 10:08:33 PM »
Thank yall for the info. I'll be pretty busy running trips with fall redfish season fixing to start in Lousiana. So, progress will probably be pretty slow until the January. The hull looks to have been stored inside or under cover. I'm hoping when I get the liner out of it ta find stringers in decent shape. Either way I'll replace the foam that needs replacement and have about decided to go ahead and fill the transom. I've been kind of back and forth about wood or composite for the deck and transom. I'm thinking wood would have reasonable longevity and lower costs than composite.

October 10, 2016, 08:14:18 PM
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Re: FF to CC Rebuild
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2016, 08:14:18 PM »
I started the teardown yesterday and it was suprising. The cushions in the cuddy were in good shape for being a 78' vintage


Pretty cool find. You don't see these anymore.


The destruction began. I used the skill saw for the most part and man does it chuck some dust. I've got the itch. LOL


Obviously someone has done a gas tank job on this boat. The original tank sat on top of the liner which I thought was interesting.


I was a little concerned when I cut the cap away on the port side. The gunwales bowed out a couple of inches. Should I try to pull them back in and measure? It doesn't seem like the bow is enough to worry about and should not impact the running surface. Any thoughts on this? My intent was to leave 4-6" of the cap for structural support during disassembly. But that it doesn't seem to support much.


These make disassembly so much more enjoyable. I prob had a couple too many through the course of the day yesterday.

October 10, 2016, 08:37:08 PM
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Re: FF to CC Rebuild
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2016, 08:37:08 PM »
It's probably a good idea to preserve the original hull shape, so I'd make some kind of jig to hold things in place. 

If you can, try to preserve some of the angles when you cut the cap.  For example, if you kept 6-8" where the cap rounded over to the cabin top,I doubt the gunwale would have bowed so much.

October 11, 2016, 09:57:39 AM
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2016, 09:57:39 AM »
Love the orange plaid cushions!  We had a LazyBoy chair that was about the same colors back in the 70s.
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January 02, 2017, 12:03:32 PM
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Re: FF to CC Rebuild
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2017, 12:03:32 PM »
I started a thread in the Family Fisherman section but since this boat is going back together as a center consolve I thought it might be a better fit on this forum. I finally managed to get her torn down to the stringers.
The good new is this boat must have lived inside the majority of the time. The foam in the stringers is dry and the transom is solid for the most part. I drilled some holes around the drain plug and of course it's wet and soft but I wouldn't say rotten. The starboard stringer has a bad spot where the helm was located. I would have thought the helm chair screws probably allowed moisture intrusion but this is farther forward.
There is a thin sheet of plywood inside the stringer which is almost completely rotted. The glass is very thin where the plywood was located. I can't tell how bad of shape the glass is in this spot. I would appreciate some input on feasability of repair. I think it would be easier to fix than fabricate a new set of stringers.

January 03, 2017, 07:33:01 PM
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Re: FF to CC Rebuild
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2017, 07:33:01 PM »
They glued plywood in there to screw straps into to hold the fuel tank down. Clean it up and get a good look at the stringer glass. Hopefully not too much delam!

 

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