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January 17, 2012, 06:19:29 PM
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Re: 1982 Pro Line Flatback
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2012, 06:19:29 PM »
Found this tower today, may be worth looking at http://sarasota.craigslist.org/boa/2770719897.html
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January 17, 2012, 07:28:34 PM
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Re: 1982 Pro Line Flatback
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2012, 07:28:34 PM »
thanks hook, I will give them a ring in the morning
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January 18, 2012, 09:23:49 AM
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Re: 1982 Pro Line Flatback
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2012, 09:23:49 AM »
Even if the tower is close to what you want and in good shape get it. I have a buddy down here who did the cutting and wielding on mine and I can hook you up with him.  Then I built my console to fit the tower. Main thing is you measure to see how much deck room you have to get around it. A upper console box is about $400 then comes the rigging stuff. Its crazy how cheap used towers are but unless you are doing a rebuild odds are you would never find one that fits. PO's loss is our gain
Let me know how your motor shopping goes
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January 18, 2012, 02:07:50 PM
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Re: 1982 Pro Line Flatback
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2012, 02:07:50 PM »
Anybody recommend a certain hp motor. I have no data plate to tell me max rated hp. I am looking for a good combonation of speed/power and fuel economy, with no waste of hp. I have a friend who has the same boat with a HUGE stainless steel platform/tower and his boat with a 150 does about 40mph wot. I'm leaning towards a 200 but again open to opnions and thoughts. Also while I'm not opposed to any other brand I have only owned yamahas.
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January 18, 2012, 02:46:07 PM
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Re: 1982 Pro Line Flatback
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2012, 02:46:07 PM »
We saw one of these at the Atlanta boat show last week. Very simple and easy to work on. No compressors or multi-valves. The weight and the price was right too. I don't know about performance on your hull but it should do fine as long as you don't wan't a 60 MPH boat.

http://www.mercurymarine.com/engines/ou ... rokes/150/
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January 18, 2012, 02:55:14 PM
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Re: 1982 Pro Line Flatback
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2012, 02:55:14 PM »
Capt Matt steered you correctly about weight in the rear, it will kill the way these boats sit / run.  I would recommend trying to get the livewell under the seat if possible.

Regarding power, I think you would do well with a 175/200.  I have a 150 on my 222 and it is perfect, but with a bigger boat I would prefer a little more power.  You might check out a 'Zuke 175 (same weight as a 150, because it's the same block), or possibly an Etec (they are also fairly light motors).  I *believe* Yamaha makes some of the heaviest motors... so just be aware.

January 18, 2012, 03:13:56 PM
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Re: 1982 Pro Line Flatback
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2012, 03:13:56 PM »
If speed/power and fuel economy is what you are looking for Mercury Optimax is the way to go, and you will more than likely save money on the purchase as well.

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January 18, 2012, 05:26:08 PM
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Re: 1982 Pro Line Flatback
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2012, 05:26:08 PM »
Opti Max 200 or 225
Like everyone did not know that is what I would say
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January 19, 2012, 01:03:58 PM
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Re: 1982 Pro Line Flatback
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2012, 01:03:58 PM »
Quote from: "hopefishing"
Anybody recommend a certain hp motor. I have no data plate to tell me max rated hp. I am looking for a good combonation of speed/power and fuel economy, with no waste of hp. I have a friend who has the same boat with a HUGE stainless steel platform/tower and his boat with a 150 does about 40mph wot. I'm leaning towards a 200 but again open to opnions and thoughts. Also while I'm not opposed to any other brand I have only owned yamahas.


I own a 24' proline flatback that I rebuilt. I powered my hull with a DF 175 Suzuki. It is plenty
 of power for the boat.

These hulls are not designed for speed. My boat gets on plane with a full load with ease. Cruises at 30 right at 4000 rpms and runs 44 at WOT.
Depending on conditions I get 3.5 to 4 MPG. IMO it is plenty of power and anything more is a waste on the flat back hull design.

Your hull design appears to be a little different than mine from what I can see in the pictures. It appears you do not have a true flat back but have some degree of a V all the way down the hull.
I am not positive but I dont even think Proline made a flat back 24' after 1973.

I am not a fan of towers so I did not install one on my boat. I did however set it up so one could be installed if ever the boat was sold after I was dead. :lol:

I agree with Matt and Lil richard. Two much weight in the rear of these boats will cause performance issues as will to much weight forward.
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January 19, 2012, 02:26:07 PM
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Re: 1982 Pro Line Flatback
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2012, 02:26:07 PM »
Flatback rebuilds are all about balance.
Move the fuel tank forward to offset the motor if you go with a bracket
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January 19, 2012, 06:12:48 PM
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Re: 1982 Pro Line Flatback
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2012, 06:12:48 PM »
Hmm so scrap the livewells in the transom idea? Off the stern I will have the swim platform, a power pole, motor on probably a bobs jackplate(unless someone can explain how the portabracket will be worth the extra 1800) and then a 250 qt yeti to use as my fish box. I can move the livewell to the leaning post and buy one of the hammerhead types to put there, but a large livewell will be a must. (and the clear lid is great for kids to watch the bait I have learned.) Heres a picture by the way of the stern.


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January 19, 2012, 06:43:09 PM
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Re: 1982 Pro Line Flatback
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2012, 06:43:09 PM »
Regarding your need for all the cooler space, I think you should put a cooler/fishbox somewhere built into the front casting deck. Many of the flatbacks and vhull early aqua's have the built in cooler as the very front compartment on thier casting deck. They simply drain overboard out the port gunwale.  
Here's the layout of my front casting deck: the 2 side by side hatches open to 1 large compartment and the large front hatch is an "insulated" compartment. (The insulation might not be that effective at this point as it's about 40years old).


Additionally you could contour your front casting deck to have an area that would allow a cooler to set in it (at floor level) and have the casting platform flank around the sides (look at the styling of the Yellowfin 24's casting deck).

I dont know if you already have a console or plan to buy/build one, but you could always remove the front console seat (if yours has one) and replace the seat with a cooler for the clients to sit on. I know Yeti offers a pad that snaps to the lid.

Also wondering: you mentioned you guide in the everglades I think; what kind of fish are your clients keeping? Seems like you're looking for an aweful lot of cooler space for inshore fishing.

Have you decided how you're going to finish out the stern? If you leave it like it is,I think you could have a jack plate as long as it has a large off-set, but the benefit of the Porta Bracket is that it provides the necessary set back to have the engine fully trimmed out of the water. I think the problem you will run into with a jackplate is that the motor will not be able to go through the full trim cycle due to the cowling hitting the transom.
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January 19, 2012, 06:45:00 PM
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Re: 1982 Pro Line Flatback
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2012, 06:45:00 PM »
Just took another look at page 1 of your post, you could even fit a cooler inbetween the existing forward casting platform and just put some hatches into the existing boxes.
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January 19, 2012, 07:00:39 PM
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Re: 1982 Pro Line Flatback
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2012, 07:00:39 PM »
Good thinking re. the livewell in the leaning post area.

All kinds of add-on options as well...full leaning post above, footrest, rodholders, etc.


January 19, 2012, 07:28:46 PM
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Re: 1982 Pro Line Flatback
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2012, 07:28:46 PM »
IMHO, early flatbacks, AS or PL, as well as the 12 degree deadrise hulls, were pretty much designed with the max horse available at the time to probably around 150, more likely 75s through 90s.  The weight of the 3 cylinders was so much less then even the lightest I/4 (Yam and Suz 115/130/135/140/150s) and DEFINITELY much less than either the Opti or Etec V-6 150.

So, once again, IMHO, we are looking at slapping a motor on a boat that, 1) was never designed for it, and 2) those motors weren't even a twinkle in their Daddy's eye when those boats were built...

So, all that being said, and getting rid of as much accumulated water weight (read that saturated foam and transoms), and shifting some of the above decks glass weight forward, as well as any tanks...150 Opti is my choice...

JMHO...


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