Old School A Year Later

[LilRichard]

Rick- I am certainly not saying $100k is reasonable for a bay boat, hell, you could get a 32' Yellowfin for a little more than that!

That's a nice looking boat too... but it's getting to be a crowded market place with all these bayboat options.

[John Jones]

A few weeks ago I was poking around the Andros website.

I'd have to sell my house.  

[slippery73]

Heres my recommendation if one was to buy a new boat.

http://www.edsmarinesuperstore.com/caroskif.htm

You can get the 258 dlv with a 175 suzuki rigged with console, front deck etc. for 21k

Ive had a 19' for years and was debating a new skiff or the aquasport but I decided I wanted the project boat because I enjoy doing this kind of work. 100k for a new bay boat is insane. Heres a link with pics...

http://www.carolinaskiff.com/listman/li ... l0003.html

[Capt. Bob]

Seems like that fiberglass bracket is asking for trouble down the road. Might be a little better for getting up on plane, but if its going to crack, delaminate, etc. 10 years down the road than why? I'd go with what proven.

I can't argue that because mine is aluminum. Other than some slight electrolysis between the dissimilar metals (ss bolts/alum bracket) it is spotless after 11years . I do agree that the platform serves a much better function than just the bracket alone.

[Keith Knecht]

slippery73,

It's not any more likely to chip, crack or delaminate than any other part of the boat as long as the bonding surfaces were prepared properly.  Actually less probably since the materials are newer and better.  They started painting it today.  Put a few more pics in my gallery.  The swim platform will end up being off white with a matching boot stripe that will separate the green from the black bottom paint that is going back on.

[slippery73]

That type of bracket would be way more likely to have problems than one that would be bolted on. Any time something is hung off the back of the boat it acts like a fulcrum and a lever with the majority of the additional forces caused by the lever to be focused on the bond of the transom and bracket. Typical brackets are bolted on through the transom with reinforcing plates etc. The fiberglass transom seems like it would be fine if it was constructed like a typical outboard bracket then bolted through the transom and 5200'd. I dont think i would want to rely on only a fiberglass bond to hold on my motor especially with the extra forces a bracket produce.

[Keith Knecht]

Hey Slippery,

Just wanted to clear up a few things.  On the Egmont 23 the bracket is an integrated part of the hull.  All one piece.  On my boat, the bracket has been added.  If it had just been glassed on, what you say would be true. But, it has stringers that run to the back of the bracket that are glassed to the bracket and then run several feet up into the hull and are glassed to the original hull as well as tied into the original main stringers.  What was done was to basically move the transom back.  Don't think I'll have any problems as they have done this to other boats that are doing fine after many years. Actually there can, didn't say will, be a problem with bolt on brackets.  They should be removed and reseated about every five years.  The bolts have a tendency to compress the transom even with the backing plate.  This allows water in and causes rot if wood is present which causes further compression and so on.

[slippery73]

Keith,  wasn't saying your set up wont work. Just saying the likelihood of one having problems with a set up like that are greater than a typical full transom and say a porta bracket. As far as reseating goes, definately agree it would be beneficial to remove brackets and reseal after so many years, seems like 5200 only lasts so long. For the compression issue thats why I went with the nidacore pourable transom compound, more expensive but you get what you pay for, 2-3 times the compression strength of plywood and 8-10 times the compression strength of composite foam.

[Keith Knecht]

Well, it's almost done.  Next week for sure.  Will install the half tower and start rigging. Here's a picture with the rub rail and swim platform the right color.

[Keith Knecht]

Here's one from the front

[RickK]

Hard to believe it's the same boat.  8)

[71flatback]

looks awesome, wish mine looked like that

[slippery73]

Looking good, did they gel coat it or paint? Whos building your tower?

[Keith Knecht]

Hey slippery,

Some paint and some gelcoat depending on where you're talking about.  Most of what you see is paint.  I already have the half tower.  It's by Quality and the place where you stand is 41" off the deck,  I will only have controls on the tower so I hope that's not too high when it gets a little rough.  If I don't like it,  I'll put the boat up for sale and get a CCP to work on.

[slippery73]

Just came across a tower that was ripped out of a sabalo a couple weeks ago, made by quality and single station 41" up. I would have bought it but it was sold already. If its the design im thinking it should look great, one of the nicer half towers I have seen.