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July 11, 2006, 09:38:17 AM
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« on: July 11, 2006, 09:38:17 AM »
Hello All,

We were finally able to get the hull we bought on E-Bay last month.  Its going to be a complete gut job, nothing but the hull shell will be reused.  The boat was “rebuilt” once before using a bunch of cheap wood, polyester, and mat.

Demolition begins this weekend. :?

We have not decided if it will be rebuilt all composite or if we will use marineply and epoxy.  It more depends if we are going to keep the boat to use ourselves.  If we are going to keep it, we will use wood.

I will be sure to post pictures of the progress.

Joel

July 11, 2006, 09:39:20 AM
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2006, 09:39:20 AM »
Here are a couple pictures....


Admin Edit: The links are no longer good. For complete process pictures here is a link to Joel's site: http://forums.bateau2.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=11294

July 11, 2006, 12:37:56 PM
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2006, 12:37:56 PM »
Going to leave the spray rails?
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July 11, 2006, 12:53:04 PM
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2006, 12:53:04 PM »
not sure.  We will take them off to fair the hull, but I might re-shape them and put them back on.  Is one of the things I hope to get some opinions on here.

I think we are going to go all composite.  Foamcore and nidacore mostly.  This should result in the boat loosing AT LEAST 300 pounds, closer to 500 with how it is now (water-logged wood).  Does anyone have a rough estimate on the PPI for this hull?  I am hoping we can lower the sole a little.

Joel

July 11, 2006, 01:16:17 PM
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2006, 01:16:17 PM »
Be careful lowering the floor/sole.  They don't self bail all that great to begin with.  Lowering the floor aint gonna help.  I would raise it an inch, personally.  Use those "float ball" scuppers.

I would also leave the spray rails (or replace them)  they are helpful, as the boat can get wet in a chop.
Wilson Ayala
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July 11, 2006, 01:24:14 PM
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2006, 01:24:14 PM »
Shine,
Y'all are gonna love that boat so much, Jacques will be dying to design something like it!!  He will be unable to contain himself. :D  :D
Wilson Ayala
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July 12, 2006, 10:29:39 AM
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2006, 10:29:39 AM »
A C23 could be down the line, who knows.

The rails will come off for the hull fairing, but Im thinking new one will go on before we are finished.

I have some free time this weekend to really tear into her, so I will post more pictures then.

I doubt I will put in a forward casting deck, just extend the sole all the way up.  The cap is not worth keeping, so we get to customize a new cap  :?

The transom is completely delaminated, so bad that the outside skin is going to have to come out. :?  :?

Joel

July 12, 2006, 11:12:33 AM
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2006, 11:12:33 AM »
Really?!?!? No way to salvage that outer skin?  Even with a major "clamp up?
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July 12, 2006, 11:25:59 AM
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2006, 11:25:59 AM »
Not as is.  Its pretty nasty.  I think we will rebuild the outer skin from the inside, if that makes sense.  Take out inside skin, take out core, then grind back almost all what left of the outside skin.  Then lay in new Biax glass on what remains of the outside skin.   Then fair the outside down until we reach our new glass.  

This should be less work than cutting the transom out completely and making a mold.

I will feel a lot better about strength of the transom also

Joel

July 12, 2006, 12:50:47 PM
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2006, 12:50:47 PM »
That works.  I rebuilt from the inside and built a full (enclosed) transom.  I ground off the gelcoat and started to fair.  WOW  was it a bitch.  took for ever and still wasn't perfect.  There had to be a better way.  I just didn't know it.
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July 13, 2006, 12:02:03 PM
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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2006, 12:02:03 PM »
More pre-op pictures....

Note the one of the transom, you can see how uneven it is.  You can press in maybe 1/8" with light finger pressure in some areas :shock:









July 13, 2006, 12:59:05 PM
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2006, 12:59:05 PM »
That has definatly been worked on.  The boxes in the back aren't original neither is that "well" (I don't think).  The console is not original either, and the casting deck is already gone.
Wilson Ayala
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July 13, 2006, 01:05:35 PM
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2006, 01:05:35 PM »
oh yeah, its "what not to do" tutorial :D

July 13, 2006, 01:11:46 PM
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2006, 01:11:46 PM »
Can't wait to see the jungle rot when you unbutton the transom.  The cap back there looks like a ferrocement trowel job.
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July 13, 2006, 04:19:12 PM
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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2006, 04:19:12 PM »
Geez.... I am feeling better and better about the shape my hull was in when I acquired it!!  :shock:

 

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