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July 05, 2020, 06:34:13 PM
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Re: Mike B's 19-1 Refinish
« Reply #150 on: July 05, 2020, 06:34:13 PM »
Rick, it was definitely the butt ends of the pipe hanging you up.  I forgot to grind one down and got hung up on my last dry run of the controls.  I've run two sets of controls through, one from a 91 Evinrude 120, and one set from a late model 115 Etec.  Slides through slick now, 2" pipe the whole way, and 4-45's.

July 05, 2020, 08:02:48 PM
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« Reply #151 on: July 05, 2020, 08:02:48 PM »
Cool - thanks for explaining your process for the other members that will need this.
Rick
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July 06, 2020, 10:10:51 AM
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Re: Mike B's 19-1 Refinish
« Reply #152 on: July 06, 2020, 10:10:51 AM »
Here's the Deck, with 2 layers of 1708 and epoxy.  Need to flip it and glass the other side, clean up the edges.  Its still a little weak at the seams.  I'm going to reinforce them with glass before the full layer of 1708.  Then I need to figure out what I'm doing with the forward deck... and I need to order more epoxy... I should get an epoxy subscription for a gallon a week until further notice. It will be very nice when I'm not walking around the stringers.  I think I recall a reinforced section around where the cooler seat was.  Maybe i'll put another piece of 1/2" plywood there, in case I add a leaning post at some point. Is that what people typically do?


July 06, 2020, 12:55:39 PM
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Re: Mike B's 19-1 Refinish
« Reply #153 on: July 06, 2020, 12:55:39 PM »
I used polyester resin and 2 layers of chopped strand mat for the underside of the deck to save on epoxy and 1708 cost. I figured I was just concerned about water proofing the underside of the deck only. Almost certain I got that tip from somebody’s build on this site.  :thumleft:

July 06, 2020, 01:33:29 PM
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Re: Mike B's 19-1 Refinish
« Reply #154 on: July 06, 2020, 01:33:29 PM »
Thanks FishHead,  I think at one point I had considered doing the whole deck in polyester, but I've had blinders on cranking through building.  I appreciate it, that will save me like $100, and keep me working until I get another shipment of epoxy....  Local store has it fairly cheap.

July 14, 2020, 09:01:05 PM
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Re: Mike B's 19-1 Refinish
« Reply #155 on: July 14, 2020, 09:01:05 PM »
Now working on the fore section of deck.  Got it cut, need to shape it to the bow contour.  Also reinforced the seams on the back of the rear deck.  Much more rugged now.  I'll finish it off with a full layer of 1708 and poly resin.  Wife is out of town again... time to make hay.


July 17, 2020, 07:16:39 AM
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« Reply #156 on: July 17, 2020, 07:16:39 AM »
Forward section of deck is cut to shape.  Need to trim a little off to square it up.  It will be awful nice to not be tripping over stringers.


July 18, 2020, 07:06:07 AM
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« Reply #157 on: July 18, 2020, 07:06:07 AM »
No casting deck?  That’s my plan, the storage seems useless to me ( kinda like a junk drawer)  I’ll just put a cooler up there for added seating and a good platform to stand on. I will extend the cap back to incorporate a anchor locker and standing area, which will make the deck straight across the end of the stringers.

 :great02:Keep up the work, inspiration to get back to mine
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1973 “196” (just getting started)
Mike

July 18, 2020, 09:02:32 AM
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Re: Mike B's 19-1 Refinish
« Reply #158 on: July 18, 2020, 09:02:32 AM »
Looking great! It is a huge accomplishment getting floor down. Almost feels like a boat at that point.

I like having a casting deck for kids, but then again I have a bow dodger and I’m not really set up for dedicated fishing.

July 18, 2020, 09:48:22 AM
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Re: Mike B's 19-1 Refinish
« Reply #159 on: July 18, 2020, 09:48:22 AM »
Yeah, no casting deck.  Eventually I'm going to add bench seating along the sides, with hinged tops for extra seating and storage.  I think for the first year at least, it will be a decent set of marine beanbag chairs.  It will also allow me to keep the 3 year old in front of the console without fear of her going over for now.

July 19, 2020, 08:26:09 PM
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Re: Mike B's 19-1 Refinish
« Reply #160 on: July 19, 2020, 08:26:09 PM »
Ugh... already regretting the polyester resin... tho much easier to wet out, despite the terrible VOCs that periodically elevated beyond what my respirator could remove, it looks like what was previously wet out 1708, is now not completely wet out, like it soaked into the plywood... now I'm not sure what to do... I guess i coat over it with epoxy to seal it up? It wasn't going to bond well before, worse now I'm sure...

July 19, 2020, 08:40:45 PM
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« Reply #161 on: July 19, 2020, 08:40:45 PM »
May not be too bad.  I put what little resin I had left over what's there.  I'm not convinced I won't be able to pull the glass off in one sheet, and do It all over again in epoxy.  We'll see how it looks tomorrow.

July 19, 2020, 08:46:19 PM
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« Reply #162 on: July 19, 2020, 08:46:19 PM »
What are you working on today? The topside of the floor? I tried doing a little work with poly the other day but it was so hot down here in FL that it was kicking before it could even wet out fully. We stopped before getting too far. I've heard that refrigerating the resin first can help when it gets hot.

July 19, 2020, 09:42:55 PM
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Re: Mike B's 19-1 Refinish
« Reply #163 on: July 19, 2020, 09:42:55 PM »
The underside of the deck.  We'll see what tomorrow brings.  It was only 75 degrees here today, not too hot. Someone has been suggesting a coat of thinned resin on the plywood first.  I should have listened to that someone.  I'm just afraid that if it's not bonded to the plywood, if I get any water under it, it will just migrate around in the deck and ruin the whole thing.... I hate to think I'm going to grind it all off...

July 19, 2020, 09:48:33 PM
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Re: Mike B's 19-1 Refinish
« Reply #164 on: July 19, 2020, 09:48:33 PM »
My guess is you could probably recoat, almost like a hot coat and you will be fine. If it drained downwards on its own, it will do it again and should fill in the voids. Foam roller may do the trick.  The important thing for that type of layup is that the glass 1) got wet, and 2) is fully adhered, which it should be, in order to get your tension fibers engaged.

That said, I am not an expert in polyester... my limited knowledge is enough to know that I hate it though. I will take the extra expense of epoxy for almost any project.

 

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