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May 16, 2020, 05:55:50 PM
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Re: 87 222 Rebuild
« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2020, 05:55:50 PM »
Ulysses thank you for those numbers! The console numbers would definitely help, i'm in the dark on those numbers. As for my tank, I have the coffin box approx. 62" leaving an inch on each side of the bulkhead. As of now, I have my aft tank coffin bulkhead about 100" from the transom. I am concerned that is not enough and will leave way too much weight forward, maybe i'm wrong on that one?

I've been slacking on getting this drawing to you so i wanted to at least get you the dimensions. Reference the drawing i put together the other day and let me know if the dimensions make sense.

1. From the face of the casting deck the console sat 17'' back (about 1'' of coffin box exposed in front of the console).
2. From the inside bottom of transom to back it was 88-7/8''.
3. The center console is 43-1/2'' long.



Ulysses
1974' 240 CC - https://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=15975.0
1970’ Flatback 222 - https://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=15666.0
1981’ Osprey 22-2 - https://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=15249.0
1971’ Flatback 222 - SOLD
1972' 240 Seahunter - SOLD

May 19, 2020, 09:39:25 PM
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Re: 87 222 Rebuild
« Reply #46 on: May 19, 2020, 09:39:25 PM »
Ulysses, When you say your measurement from the transom, saying from the bottom of the floor to the back  tip of console ? (looking at it from the transom towards bow)  Or from the actual transom itself near the bottom to the console tip? Thank you for those measurements! Should be taking delivery of the fuel tank this week, then hoses, bulkheads and deck. I think I am going to tackle the hatches once the deck is already down. Anyone do it this way or wish they had done it while floor was still out?

May 21, 2020, 04:13:47 PM
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« Reply #47 on: May 21, 2020, 04:13:47 PM »
Picked up my tank today. Will be getting my bulkheads installed this weekend as well as the tank. Hopefully if all goes to plan, will be able to have the deck glued down next week. Now to double check my numbers and pick a good spot to place the tank.

Mattson & Co. did a great job on the tank and fast turnaround.




May 21, 2020, 05:46:59 PM
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« Reply #48 on: May 21, 2020, 05:46:59 PM »
Did you tell us the method you're going to use to install the tank?  Make sure you get a closeup pic of the tag for later.
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

May 22, 2020, 04:01:18 PM
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« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2020, 04:01:18 PM »
Rick, was instructed by Mr. Mattson to make cow patties of 5200 on the tank coffin, then to smush the tank into those as even as possible. I was given 4 L brackets as well to be screwed to the bulkheads when i know exactly where to place it then 5200 the other end to the tank. The idea being that 5200 will rip thru the bulkhead before the tank. The effort to get that stuff off your hands ,it Sounds good to me, I'm going with it.

May 22, 2020, 04:12:07 PM
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Re: 87 222 Rebuild
« Reply #50 on: May 22, 2020, 04:12:07 PM »
. . . .  The idea being that 5200 will rip thru the bulkhead before the tank. The effort to get that stuff off your hands ,it Sounds good to me, I'm going with it.

Mineral spirits or any solvent containing xylene will get it off before it cure.  After that, dynamite.

May 22, 2020, 04:16:28 PM
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« Reply #51 on: May 22, 2020, 04:16:28 PM »
Mshugg, good thing iv'e been using denatured alcohol the whole time  :great02: it Keeps the Rona away too

May 22, 2020, 09:41:08 PM
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« Reply #52 on: May 22, 2020, 09:41:08 PM »
That's a good looking tank. What size is it? Do you mind sharing what they go for? Do people coat them these days? When i just pulled mine it looks like they put a tar coat on it and looks to be protected.

I thought i was the only one calling it "The Rona" hehe.

Ulysses, When you say your measurement from the transom, saying from the bottom of the floor to the back  tip of console ? (looking at it from the transom towards bow)  Or from the actual transom itself near the bottom to the console tip? Thank you for those measurements! Should be taking delivery of the fuel tank this week, then hoses, bulkheads and deck. I think I am going to tackle the hatches once the deck is already down. Anyone do it this way or wish they had done it while floor was still out?

I am not really sure i understand what you are asking but i will try to help explain the dimension. I am laying tape on the deck floor and measuring from the mounting lip to the transom at the deck height. Does that make sense? Feel free to PM and we can chat or we can exchange numbers and i can explain better.

Ulysses
1974' 240 CC - https://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=15975.0
1970’ Flatback 222 - https://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=15666.0
1981’ Osprey 22-2 - https://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=15249.0
1971’ Flatback 222 - SOLD
1972' 240 Seahunter - SOLD

May 26, 2020, 02:09:03 AM
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« Reply #53 on: May 26, 2020, 02:09:03 AM »
Ulysses, my tank was around $650. Not too bad and they out out some quality work there.

I can PM you about the specs and the measurements. I may reuse the original console and just do some glass work on it to allow for more space for electronics, etc. unless i can find a console at the surplus yard.

May 26, 2020, 12:24:15 PM
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« Reply #54 on: May 26, 2020, 12:24:15 PM »
Ulysses, my tank was around $650. Not too bad and they out out some quality work there.

I can PM you about the specs and the measurements. I may reuse the original console and just do some glass work on it to allow for more space for electronics, etc. unless i can find a console at the surplus yard.

Cool thank you! How many gallons? I am doing mods to my cc as well. Couldn't find what i am looking for so decided to remove notch at gauges and make it taller.

Ulysses
1974' 240 CC - https://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=15975.0
1970’ Flatback 222 - https://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=15666.0
1981’ Osprey 22-2 - https://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=15249.0
1971’ Flatback 222 - SOLD
1972' 240 Seahunter - SOLD

May 26, 2020, 01:36:31 PM
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« Reply #55 on: May 26, 2020, 01:36:31 PM »
The tank plate says approx 50 gallons but doing the math 60”x9”x”22” /231 come out to 51.5 gallon.

Thats Exactly what I was thinking for my console.  just increase the height. The notched area seems useless

May 26, 2020, 01:54:59 PM
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« Reply #56 on: May 26, 2020, 01:54:59 PM »
The tank plate says approx 50 gallons but doing the math 60”x9”x”22” /231 come out to 51.5 gallon.

Thats Exactly what I was thinking for my console.  just increase the height. The notched area seems useless

That was my thoughts exactly. I'd rather have a glove box to seal phones wallets, sunglasses to protect and secure them. Im curious to see some photos if you have some. I have a running post of my two phase build.

Ulysses

1974' 240 CC - https://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=15975.0
1970’ Flatback 222 - https://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=15666.0
1981’ Osprey 22-2 - https://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=15249.0
1971’ Flatback 222 - SOLD
1972' 240 Seahunter - SOLD

August 18, 2020, 01:24:42 AM
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Re: 87 222 Rebuild
« Reply #57 on: August 18, 2020, 01:24:42 AM »
Finally got around to uploading a ton more photos:

My fuel tank is in and the deck is getting ready to go down this week. Working at a good pace now so should have this wrapped up in about a month. Can't wait till shes done.
















1 1/2 " pipe for running bilge hoses to the hullsides. Left enough room in case a second pump is desired.



Pipe seated and sealed.










bonded some supports to the bulkheads for the floor joints. 3" wide should do nicely.







My grand plan for securing the deck:

I have scaffolding platform setup over the boat and will use a chainfall to lower it down nice and easy. 4 eye bolts in the deck for good stability. Figured less headache than 4 guys trying to drop it down and I don't have to worry about fighting for time with the glue going down. One man band.



dry fit done. No binding points.






I am going to also tackle a bit of the console this week as well. It needs a ton of patching from previous cutouts. The plan is to add some height at the bottom as the original console is quite low.  Looking for a flat display surface but have to consider the steering wheel being in the way of electronics and gauges. 


August 18, 2020, 02:01:16 AM
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« Reply #58 on: August 18, 2020, 02:01:16 AM »
More on the console and my ideas for it:

 This thing sure is rough but will look great when its done. I like the original console layout a lot. Many of the newer slim consoles don't have a front seat and limited possibilities. This one just needs about 8" added to make it higher and more in line with a leaning post.
 


I like the idea of a forward cooler/seat. Additionally I could plumb it to act as a fwd livewell.



I will pour some 2 part foam around the edges of the front cooler so it is nice and insulated. Adding a drain fitting and draining into the bilge shouldn't be too bad. I will have to see about making it a hybrid livewell/ cooler, seems like a great use of the space.



Can't get this photo to turn the right way.
Mock up of how the console will be layed out. MY ideas for the deck hatches as well as a leaning post/ livewell combo.
I'm planning on building the leaning post/livewell myself so will have to build a melamine mold and figure the sizing. Would like it to match the style of the console


August 18, 2020, 06:22:37 AM
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« Reply #59 on: August 18, 2020, 06:22:37 AM »
That was a huge update. Nice clean work - she's coming along nicely.  :thumleft:
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

 

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