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March 02, 2020, 02:06:57 PM
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Tampa Bay Mike

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Re: Cale's 1986 osprey 200 rebuild 140 suzuki with bracket
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2020, 02:06:57 PM »
I'm interested to see how this turns out. It may be worth a small scale test to see how it works. I have used plastic drop cloths before and poly doesn't seem to stick to it. You could do small test panels a few different ways and see what works best if any.

March 02, 2020, 02:15:46 PM
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« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2020, 02:15:46 PM »
If you're talking about 3/4 oz CSM, 1708 has 3/4 oz CSM sewn on one side of the cloth. Just apply it with the cloth side to the melamine.
If you can lay the floor out on a garage floor where it'll be flat, you would be better off to lam it all at once so you don't have to join panels together with tape and go through the hassle of fairing that hump out. The floor will be light enough for you to carry it when done and drop it back into the hull. That's what I did, it was easy.
Have you figured out how you're going to tie the floor into the liner yet? That will take some fairing.
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March 02, 2020, 02:45:46 PM
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Re: Cale's 1986 osprey 200 rebuild 140 suzuki with bracket
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2020, 02:45:46 PM »
I may try a couple test piece mike. That's a good idea. And rick I was going to tab it all around with 1708. I know that's going to require quite a bit of sanding and fairing and that's kinda why I was trying to save myself some work with the panels. I know it has 3/4 on the 1708 but I was thinking it may help stability some as well. I am hoping this hardens up with the top layer of glass. I have glassed the bottom on 2 of the panels already and you still cant walk on them. I hope when I glass the top side it makes it solid. Everything I read and the nidacore manufacturer says 1 layer of 1708 top and bottom is what is needed to make it solid
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March 02, 2020, 05:31:20 PM
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Re: Cale's 1986 osprey 200 rebuild 140 suzuki with bracket
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2020, 05:31:20 PM »
A clean surface on your core material, clean sheets of fiberglass, clean resin and materials, and a flat floor will give you the best results (in my opinion).

If you sandwich your fiberglass between melamine and your core material, you’ll more than likely have air pockets. If you are to glass it and roll out the bubbles you’ll have a far more superior bond.

A lot of fairing and sanding seems inevitable. Choose the method you prefer and are comfortable with  :great02:

March 02, 2020, 05:41:10 PM
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Re: Cale's 1986 osprey 200 rebuild 140 suzuki with bracket
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2020, 05:41:10 PM »
I would say that is a fair opinion Capt Joe. That's what I planned on all along. I just had the new thought yesterday while piddling. I am going to think about it and try to decide.
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Engine bracket and Ttop

March 10, 2020, 01:40:45 PM
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« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2020, 01:40:45 PM »
Did you glass the floor yet? I got bored a did a small scale test with the melamine like you mentioned and it turned out pretty good. I made a new thread in the fiberglass channel to not hijack yours if you are interested.

March 10, 2020, 02:01:51 PM
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Re: Cale's 1986 osprey 200 rebuild 140 suzuki with bracket
« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2020, 02:01:51 PM »
I ended up doing it the more traditional way. I am going to hate myself later when sanding and fairing. I guess I chickened out last minute. Glad to hear it works good. I couldn't see why it wouldn't as long as you saturate the glass good. I would probably try that next time (hope there isnt a next time with any boat ever LOL
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Engine bracket and Ttop

March 10, 2020, 02:54:38 PM
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« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2020, 02:54:38 PM »
You won't be the last person to sand and fair. I'm trying to talk a friend into redoing his 200 which is another reason I did the test. Hopefully it works as well when we scale it up

March 11, 2020, 02:41:24 PM
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Re: Cale's 1986 osprey 200 rebuild 140 suzuki with bracket
« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2020, 02:41:24 PM »
Let me know how it works out. I will definitely do that next time. I set the 1 piece floor in today to do some final fitting. I still have to touch some things up, fiberglass more and adjust it a little. Of course I had to set the new console in and see how it looks. I still have to do some final below the deck things ( mount livewell pump, new wash down pump, bilge, ect) before I bond it permanently. It feels good to see a deck again.




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Suzuki df140
Engine bracket and Ttop

March 12, 2020, 06:52:53 PM
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Re: Cale's 1986 osprey 200 rebuild 140 suzuki with bracket
« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2020, 06:52:53 PM »
Looking good! Where'd you get your console?

March 12, 2020, 07:18:13 PM
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« Reply #40 on: March 12, 2020, 07:18:13 PM »
Thanks!! I bought it from a small time guy in miami. It's called Fast Marine Products. Alex is his name. Nice guy. It was the closest to what I wanted.
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Suzuki df140
Engine bracket and Ttop

March 13, 2020, 06:50:34 AM
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« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2020, 06:50:34 AM »
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March 13, 2020, 08:09:12 AM
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Re: Cale's 1986 osprey 200 rebuild 140 suzuki with bracket
« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2020, 08:09:12 AM »
So far i have 2 things that i have absolutely hated doing. The foam was a nightmare,  mainly because it was soaked and heavy. Second, was this damn 30 year old pinstriping. Whoever thought it was a good idea was wrong. So glad that is off. 😂
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Suzuki df140
Engine bracket and Ttop

March 14, 2020, 09:29:48 PM
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Re: Cale's 1986 osprey 200 rebuild 140 suzuki with bracket
« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2020, 09:29:48 PM »

I am getting dangerously close to being able to glue the floor in. Today I was able to get all of the under deck pumps mounted and ready. I also put 40 gal of rec gas, that i had drained out, back into the new tank. Now i have to cut out some hatch access doors and then glue the floor down. I foamed the other day. I did leave the back couple of inches without foam and made sure the pipes in the stringers would always be able to drain. (They were filled with foam before). I did some final fitment of the deck and sanded the edges down to prep for tabbing it in around the outside. I have a week off at the end of the this coming week so I hope to get a lot done. This project seems to be on schedule for a summertime finish. We will see if it stay that way.
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Suzuki df140
Engine bracket and Ttop

March 15, 2020, 05:43:11 AM
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Re: Cale's 1986 osprey 200 rebuild 140 suzuki with bracket
« Reply #44 on: March 15, 2020, 05:43:11 AM »
Nice progress.
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

 

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