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March 06, 2011, 06:27:31 PM
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Another 1978 CCP Project
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Hey guys what's up? I've been reading a lot of threads covering floor replacement on this site and have learned plenty of info from you guys. I recently introduced myself on the CCP owners thread.Here are a couple of pics before I started cutting



These first couple of pics are the cut line made with a circular saw, just so other people who want to do this can get a step by step
Starting from the starboard




Rick WPB 1978 200 CCP

March 06, 2011, 08:00:22 PM
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2011, 08:00:22 PM »
Rick, good work. Welcome aboard :cheers:

She's a '78....which model?

Thanks

March 06, 2011, 08:42:54 PM
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2011, 08:42:54 PM »
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She's a '78....which model?

He left you a hint in the subject line. :wink:
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March 06, 2011, 08:50:17 PM
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2011, 08:50:17 PM »
BTW it's a 200 CCP, I forgot to mention. I'm thinking of going with 5/8 marine plywood or 15mm Coosa. I'm also going to install bulkheads for more strength and stability, 1" Corecell. I haven't seen any pics of original trapezoid stringers with bulkheads. It can be done, right?  :scratch:
When I decide which material to use for the deck, which I will listen to all suggestions, I want to get as much storage out of it as possible. Also, I plan on installing a T-Top with possibly a folding tower. Here are some more pics of the amazing things I found when the floor started to come off.


I guess cutting holes in the stringers to check the foam won't be necessary, someone already did it, and even better, THER IS NO FOAM IN THE STRINGERS.   :shock: At least in the FWD section. Can't wait to get access to the AFT section, way to go  :thumleft:

Port side stringer cracked glass and notice another hole for me to inspect non-existing foam. How considerate  :drunken:

A close up of crack in port side stringer glass
And this is a piece of wood that has no glass. It's bare wood!

All these amazing discoveries and more to find in 2 weeks when I'll be able to continue. My progress will be slow because I work and go to college at night so I can never do it during the week.
Rick WPB 1978 200 CCP

March 06, 2011, 09:23:47 PM
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2011, 09:23:47 PM »
Wow, you're a college student? My son sometimes is a college student. He has a double major: Guitars and Girls.

Good for you. Like your focus.

You have a great boat. What you own can be made better than new, with modern rebuild materials.

Hang loose. Review ALL of the past rebuild posts. Ninety percent are on the money.

Many new rebuild posts occurring/coming this spring.

Again, hang loose.

March 06, 2011, 09:26:40 PM
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2011, 09:26:40 PM »
Missed the CCP post. Thanks CB  :thumright:

March 06, 2011, 11:33:38 PM
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2011, 11:33:38 PM »
Yeah! A 42 year old college student! :shock:  It took me 23 years to figure out what that little piece of paper is worth.  :study: Besides, most of the time kids follow their parents footsteps, why not take a few good steps so my kids can follow.
Anyway, back to the boat. I think one of the previous owners was on the right track by removing all the foam from the stringers, the boat must have been for sale and when he found a buyer he slapped it all back together quickly and didn't look back. It's the only reason why anyone would abandon a job that was on the right track. It looks like it was started by someone who wanted a good sturdy deck and was finished by someone who didn't give a S@%$ about boats.
I would like to keep the deck at it's current height, does anybody know of an old topic that discusses how this is done or is it just sanding down the existing piece, laying in the new floor, filling in the gap with resin mixed with microballoons, and glassing them both together after the gaps have been sanded down? That's how I would do it unless someone has a better, less time consuming suggestion. Maybe I'm missing something. I'm new to boat body work. I've worked on composite aircraft and have done s-glass, carbon fiber, and kevlar repairs, so glassing is not new to me. Working on boats, on the other hand, is.
Another question, after my deck is done I plan to primer, paint, and anti-skid. Is it better to buy Kiwi Grip or just tape the deck where I want it smooth and mix some anti-skid material with one of the paint coats. If so can it be shot with a paint gun or do I have to roll it on?
Rick WPB 1978 200 CCP

March 07, 2011, 08:40:09 AM
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2011, 08:40:09 AM »
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Another question, after my deck is done I plan to primer, paint, and anti-skid. Is it better to buy Kiwi Grip or just tape the deck where I want it smooth and mix some anti-skid material with one of the paint coats. If so can it be shot with a paint gun or do I have to roll it on?

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March 07, 2011, 09:11:34 AM
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2011, 09:11:34 AM »
Thanks for the link Bob. That's exactly what I want my floor to look like. That's what I like about this website, everyone knows where the other person is coming from or what they are referring to. I forgot I have spring break this week, maybe I'll have time to do a little more floor removal after work. :D
Rick WPB 1978 200 CCP

March 07, 2011, 07:35:09 PM
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2011, 07:35:09 PM »
I got a little bit of work done after work today and I found that the port side stringer doesn't look so good. Here is a pic of the FWD end of the boat. Notice how both side stringers have inspection holes in them that were never covered and once again there is no foam inside either stringer.

I can't tell if it is delamination or the crack has continued to travel AFT


The next 3 pics are on the outboard side of the right stringer


I found a bunch of stuff like a pen, fuel filter, parts of a bungee chord. I would like to find the guy who previously put the floor in and punch him in the face  :eye:
Rick WPB 1978 200 CCP

March 08, 2011, 07:49:31 AM
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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2011, 07:49:31 AM »
The actual stringers themselves look to be in reasonably good shape.  You may be able to grind out some old glass where they bonded to the hull and just reattach them.  That'd be my choice if possible...

March 08, 2011, 08:40:19 AM
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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2011, 08:40:19 AM »
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The actual stringers themselves look to be in reasonably good shape.  You may be able to grind out some old glass where they bonded to the hull and just reattach them.  That'd be my choice if possible...

I concur.
The foam is already removed and holes are in place for a new pour. :idea:

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March 08, 2011, 09:03:38 AM
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Re: Another 1978 CCP Project
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2011, 09:03:38 AM »
Yeah those are the pour holes for the foam, not inspection holes. My .02 is make them larger so you can retab the inside of them the the hull. This makes them far stronger than just tabbing them on the outside.
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March 08, 2011, 09:15:29 AM
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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2011, 09:15:29 AM »
Thanks for the info. I thought those holes were made by one of the previous owners to inspect the foam. Is it possible that AS didn't fill them up?
Rick WPB 1978 200 CCP

March 08, 2011, 01:36:57 PM
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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2011, 01:36:57 PM »
No, this was by the previous guy. The "floor" guy. Good thing you found it.

Definitely want to put a grinder on that delam. and re-glass. And more work/$, but would cut the tops off the stringers and re-tab from the inside like Lew recommends, then pour closed cell 4 lb. density foam.

Hey....looking good so far.

PS....send the pen, plastic filter housing, and bungee cord to Lewis. He can put it with his rusty pliers, screwdriver, single edge razor blades etc. for the sculpture.  :lol:

 

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